[chrism]

I have noticed that although it is advertised that oxid has 94% code coverage with unit tests the unit tests don't actually come with the software, is there any way to get a hold of those?

[Marco Steinhaeuser]

Hi,

that's a quite interesting question. Let me figure that out and give me a a couple of days for it, alright?

Regards

[MBa]

Originally Posted by Marco Steinhäuser

Let me figure that out and give me a a couple of days for it, alright?

... perhaps its interesting to get the template test-units, too.

[chrism]

Sounds great, get back to me when you know.

[Marco Steinhaeuser]

Hi,

see Erik's blog comment:
http://phpterror.wordpress.com/2009/...test-coverage/

We will publish the unit tests sometime in the near feature.

Cheers

[Machina non calculat]

Well dude,
make a video for the infidel, or use new cool skype feature: screenpresentation...
...and publish here

greetings
Magnus
(wanna have MOOOOOREEE Smilies!!!)

[Marco Steinhaeuser]

There are big huge discussions out there in the bloggosphere wrapped here:
http://www.websdeveloper.com/communi...d-corrections/

[avenger]

Originally Posted by Marco Steinhäuser

There are big huge discussions out there in the bloggosphere wrapped here:
http://www.websdeveloper.com/communi...d-corrections/

Apparently there are some "mighty cool" wise-guys heavily masturbating on that topic, arguing on the "Holy Grail" of PHP development.

I for my part can only compliment OXID AG on doing the code as it is!

Very pragmatic, but nevertheless well structured, and extensible.

So, as a developper, you have at least got a fair chance of understanding the system very quickly.

And, based on that, a good and competent developper community has risen around OXID in quite a short time.

Magento, for example, might well be closer to the theoretical "Holy Grail" model.

But this exactly is the problem: it is very, very hard to digest!

And even after 18 months there is no real developper comunity around (like it is normally the case with Open Source shop-systems like osc, xtc and Gambio, and now emerging with OXID).

Guess why!!

I am normally not afraid of anything when it comes to software, but I have thrown Magento into the waste-bin after one week, as it is much too complicated to work with.

And with better alternatives like OXID around, why should anybody care and waste his time with it?

The whole isssue is definitely not about the best designed software up to the latest super-duper standard.

But far more about practical shop-software (also from a developers point of view).

So, OXID AG, don't worry, be happy!

Your task is to please your users (what imo you do), and not some "mighty cool" heavily masturbating wise-guys...

Just switch into "ignore-mode", and keep on trucking...

[MBa]

Originally Posted by avenger

Apparently there are some "mighty cool" wise-guys heavily masturbating on that topic, arguing on the "Holy Grail" of PHP development.

I think the same... with other words.

This discussion is senseless for me. Just for read, laugh and forget. After I gone back to normal life.

It listen like somebody wanna design a new software, but working and creating the code should somebody other. Eg. oxid.

Anyway I don`t think that oxid goes actual to broken-by-design.
Maybe to much magic-values...

Go ahead in your way. If you do what some others wanted, then somebody other have critics.
But read critics and think about never can be wrong.

On the other side, what these guy do is not so bad.
Code-Reviews.
But only negative critic. Positiv examples will be great for learning, too.
For me in a code review will be nice if he describe how the necessary parts works.... maybe he do it if the unit-tests are public.

[MBa]

Originally Posted by Marco Steinhäuser

Hi,

see Erik's blog comment:
http://phpterror.wordpress.com/2009/...test-coverage/


Cheers

Ok, I try to bring this thread again on Top.

Here is a Comment that there is maybe a possibility to make oxid a little faster.
The problem is, that nobody can check all possible mirror-effects and dependicies.

So I think a (unit-)testing is importand and should help to make better quality for 3rd-party-modules.
Remember, if a module crash, the owner of the shop think it was oxid.